I just returned today from a weekend of wheeling. We were planning on spending most of our weekend at Byrd's, but we never got there. Me and a couple of buddies took our wives and our Jeeps and stayed in a cabin at St Paul on Hwy 16 E. We were heading to Byrd's and decided to continue east to Red Star. We spent the entire day running up and down the old roads in the national forest. I use the term "roads" lightly. Most of them have not been maintained and are about like riding in a dry creek bed full of rocks. They are really narrow too, so you will get some scratches. It's not hardcore rock crawling, but it was a lot of fun. One of the guys was in a bone stock YJ, so we couldn't get too crazy. He did a lot of things that I would have never guessed he could do, but he has very little regard for paint or body damage! They are great trails for stock or slightly modified rigs, and you can pretty much make a day of it just running those alone. There were a lot of tree tops down in the trails, so we had to get creative a couple of times and find a way around. If you're looking for a lot of rocks or deep mud, you might be a little dissapointed, but there is some. But if you are looking for some relaxing wheeling and don't mind a few paint scratches, it is a blast! It's an adventure just getting there. It would be a great trip to take the wife and kids. My wife absolutely loved it.